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		<title>Comment on LIKEaBIKE: Product Innovation at its Finest by Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Sam!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Old Spice Man ROI Will Be Measured For Years to Come by Thomas Stringham</title>
		<link>http://www.hottomali.com/blog/2010/07/26/old-spice-man-roi-will-be-measured-for-years-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Stringham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AdLand.tv weighs in on our conversation &quot;Old Spice sales up 107% - take that, social media doubters&quot;
http://bit.ly/aeYnFH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AdLand.tv weighs in on our conversation &#8220;Old Spice sales up 107% &#8211; take that, social media doubters&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://bit.ly/aeYnFH" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aeYnFH</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Old Spice Man ROI Will Be Measured For Years to Come by Chris M</title>
		<link>http://www.hottomali.com/blog/2010/07/26/old-spice-man-roi-will-be-measured-for-years-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And one more thing! I should proof my spelling and grammar before posting such an engaging and intellectual bit of commentary. Next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one more thing! I should proof my spelling and grammar before posting such an engaging and intellectual bit of commentary. Next time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Old Spice Man ROI Will Be Measured For Years to Come by Chris M</title>
		<link>http://www.hottomali.com/blog/2010/07/26/old-spice-man-roi-will-be-measured-for-years-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t think that the old spice campaign moved the needle, then the glue your sniffing must do wonders. Even on the off chance that a coupon campaign (which undercuts brand value) was responsible for Old Spice&#039;s sales increase, I would guarantee you that Old Spice wouldn&#039;t have sold anything had their brand not been refreshed. Prior to WK taking on the brand, Old Spice looked so dead people were ready to plant their crap smelling cologne in the ground. I used to be ashamed of using Old Spice deodorant, because it was a grandpa brand. But now I&#039;m proud to wear a funny and engaging brand. That is what good advertising does. I have never seen a traditional coupon campaign that makes me proud to wear a brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t think that the old spice campaign moved the needle, then the glue your sniffing must do wonders. Even on the off chance that a coupon campaign (which undercuts brand value) was responsible for Old Spice&#8217;s sales increase, I would guarantee you that Old Spice wouldn&#8217;t have sold anything had their brand not been refreshed. Prior to WK taking on the brand, Old Spice looked so dead people were ready to plant their crap smelling cologne in the ground. I used to be ashamed of using Old Spice deodorant, because it was a grandpa brand. But now I&#8217;m proud to wear a funny and engaging brand. That is what good advertising does. I have never seen a traditional coupon campaign that makes me proud to wear a brand.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Old Spice Man ROI Will Be Measured For Years to Come by Thomas Stringham</title>
		<link>http://www.hottomali.com/blog/2010/07/26/old-spice-man-roi-will-be-measured-for-years-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Stringham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure where the sales declines are in that article, but it does reinforce my point that we can&#039;t measure the effectiveness of viral success with traditional marketing metrics.

Swan Dive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure where the sales declines are in that article, but it does reinforce my point that we can&#8217;t measure the effectiveness of viral success with traditional marketing metrics.</p>
<p>Swan Dive!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Old Spice Man ROI Will Be Measured For Years to Come by Raquel Hirsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raquel Hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey - don&#039;t get me wrong! I *love* those commercials. I find them entertaining and engaging. I am glad they were produced and doubly glad they went viral (I don&#039;t watch much TV, so I had missed them live). 

AdAge weighed in here with some sales info: http://adage.com/article?article_id=145096

Excepts:

The question is: How much Old Spice body wash has he sold? And the answer is a bit of a mystery.

The bottom line: Mr. Mustafa and Wieden &amp; Kennedy are clearly selling some body wash, but they may not be responsible for the bulk of Old Spice&#039;s sales gain this year.

How much of Old Spice&#039;s recent gains -- of that 106% bump measured by Symphony IRI in June, for example -- come from Mr. Mustafa&#039;s ads and how much from the coupons? &quot;It&#039;s impossible to know,&quot; said P&amp;G spokesman Mike Norton.

Nor is it clear how much Old Spice&#039;s 106% gain will disappear from P&amp;G&#039;s top line when coupon redemptions, which don&#039;t figure into scanner data but do come off the company&#039;s top line when financial results are reported next month, figure in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; don&#8217;t get me wrong! I *love* those commercials. I find them entertaining and engaging. I am glad they were produced and doubly glad they went viral (I don&#8217;t watch much TV, so I had missed them live). </p>
<p>AdAge weighed in here with some sales info: <a href="http://adage.com/article?article_id=145096" rel="nofollow">http://adage.com/article?article_id=145096</a></p>
<p>Excepts:</p>
<p>The question is: How much Old Spice body wash has he sold? And the answer is a bit of a mystery.</p>
<p>The bottom line: Mr. Mustafa and Wieden &amp; Kennedy are clearly selling some body wash, but they may not be responsible for the bulk of Old Spice&#8217;s sales gain this year.</p>
<p>How much of Old Spice&#8217;s recent gains &#8212; of that 106% bump measured by Symphony IRI in June, for example &#8212; come from Mr. Mustafa&#8217;s ads and how much from the coupons? &#8220;It&#8217;s impossible to know,&#8221; said P&amp;G spokesman Mike Norton.</p>
<p>Nor is it clear how much Old Spice&#8217;s 106% gain will disappear from P&amp;G&#8217;s top line when coupon redemptions, which don&#8217;t figure into scanner data but do come off the company&#8217;s top line when financial results are reported next month, figure in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Old Spice Man ROI Will Be Measured For Years to Come by Thomas Stringham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Stringham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Raquel,

You asked what we thought was the best direction for a brand in troubled economic times (entertainment or direct sales messages), and I think Old Spice nailed it with the entertainment factor. The body wash category has grown 51% in 5 years (largely due to campaigns like Old Spice Man), and is now worth over three quarters of a billion dollars—that&#039;s worth the investment.

It&#039;s too early to measure the full results of Old Spice Man, and I&#039;m sure when they do, the results will be very impressive. You don&#039;t get 100 million views on YouTube and not attain a lift in brand affinity and sales. At least not with creative that is simply that good. As the CMO I would be thrilled with the fact that my campaign is rewriting the record book for sponsored online videos. Talk about rock star results.

It&#039;s worth noting that Old Spice isn&#039;t suffering from &quot;short term sales declines.&quot; In the wake of negative sales reports, Weiden + Kennedy is reporting that the campaign is doing a lot better than speculated. They report a 107 percent increase in sales on body wash, although one product in their line up, Red Zone After Hours was declining: http://bit.ly/aVidpK

All too often I see great creative get dismissed because people simply can&#039;t believe that entertainment can induce sales. As a creative director I&#039;ve spent years researching that very topic, in great detail, as I want to ensure that I&#039;m always presenting my clients with the best value for our services. Time and time again innovative viral campaigns like Old Spice Man or Dove Evolution (Ogilvy and Mather, Toronto) or Subservient Chicken (CP+B, Miami), blow away the competition in terms of ROI because the consumer embraces it and takes it to heights that retail sales messages would never achieve.

It used to be that award-winning creative was slammed for not embracing digital. I think it&#039;s very refreshing to see traditional ad shops do such a wonderful job of working on the social media landscape. These are exciting times for marketers on both the creative and analytical sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Raquel,</p>
<p>You asked what we thought was the best direction for a brand in troubled economic times (entertainment or direct sales messages), and I think Old Spice nailed it with the entertainment factor. The body wash category has grown 51% in 5 years (largely due to campaigns like Old Spice Man), and is now worth over three quarters of a billion dollars—that&#8217;s worth the investment.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too early to measure the full results of Old Spice Man, and I&#8217;m sure when they do, the results will be very impressive. You don&#8217;t get 100 million views on YouTube and not attain a lift in brand affinity and sales. At least not with creative that is simply that good. As the CMO I would be thrilled with the fact that my campaign is rewriting the record book for sponsored online videos. Talk about rock star results.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth noting that Old Spice isn&#8217;t suffering from &#8220;short term sales declines.&#8221; In the wake of negative sales reports, Weiden + Kennedy is reporting that the campaign is doing a lot better than speculated. They report a 107 percent increase in sales on body wash, although one product in their line up, Red Zone After Hours was declining: <a href="http://bit.ly/aVidpK" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aVidpK</a></p>
<p>All too often I see great creative get dismissed because people simply can&#8217;t believe that entertainment can induce sales. As a creative director I&#8217;ve spent years researching that very topic, in great detail, as I want to ensure that I&#8217;m always presenting my clients with the best value for our services. Time and time again innovative viral campaigns like Old Spice Man or Dove Evolution (Ogilvy and Mather, Toronto) or Subservient Chicken (CP+B, Miami), blow away the competition in terms of ROI because the consumer embraces it and takes it to heights that retail sales messages would never achieve.</p>
<p>It used to be that award-winning creative was slammed for not embracing digital. I think it&#8217;s very refreshing to see traditional ad shops do such a wonderful job of working on the social media landscape. These are exciting times for marketers on both the creative and analytical sides.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Old Spice Man ROI Will Be Measured For Years to Come by Raquel Hirsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raquel Hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do feelings have to do with this? (&quot;I felt that this couldn’t be further from the truth&quot;) :)

Keeping the campaign going in the face of (maybe) short terms sales declines is only a business decision: do you have the financial stamina to keep the media buy going in the face of sales declines (or flat liner results) with the promise of an eventual uptick or do you bail out?

This decision isn&#039;t unlike a decision to dump a stock you buy and which declines shortly after: do you believe it will come back or don&#039;t you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do feelings have to do with this? (&#8220;I felt that this couldn’t be further from the truth&#8221;) <img src='http://www.hottomali.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keeping the campaign going in the face of (maybe) short terms sales declines is only a business decision: do you have the financial stamina to keep the media buy going in the face of sales declines (or flat liner results) with the promise of an eventual uptick or do you bail out?</p>
<p>This decision isn&#8217;t unlike a decision to dump a stock you buy and which declines shortly after: do you believe it will come back or don&#8217;t you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts from the Ad Age Small Agency Conference by Tom Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.hottomali.com/blog/2010/07/22/thoughts-from-the-ad-age-don%e2%80%99t-call-us-small-agency-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, congrats again on the strong showing at the conference. There were a lot of great agencies and work there -- so too get a twofer is pretty incredible. 

Second, thanks for sharing my thoughts with your audience. Surprising to me that more agencies don&#039;t see/take the opportunity that digital provides -- namely a chance to get back into the driver seat with strategy and marketing guidance. I hope more jump on the bandwagon and decide it is time to catch up on all of the changes in digital, mobile and social to regain our  rightful seat as the guide of our client&#039;s marketing investments. 

Congrats again.
  @TomMartin
     Founder
     Converse Digital</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, congrats again on the strong showing at the conference. There were a lot of great agencies and work there &#8212; so too get a twofer is pretty incredible. </p>
<p>Second, thanks for sharing my thoughts with your audience. Surprising to me that more agencies don&#8217;t see/take the opportunity that digital provides &#8212; namely a chance to get back into the driver seat with strategy and marketing guidance. I hope more jump on the bandwagon and decide it is time to catch up on all of the changes in digital, mobile and social to regain our  rightful seat as the guide of our client&#8217;s marketing investments. </p>
<p>Congrats again.<br />
  @TomMartin<br />
     Founder<br />
     Converse Digital</p>
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		<title>Comment on Goodbye, Sweet Microsite by Bryce Lokken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce Lokken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 02:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the poster above... Yes, not everyone is on Facebook.  But what percent of important demographics isn&#039;t?  Sure, there isn&#039;t a lot of detached grouches, children under twelve, or people in developing nations.  But there are a lot of people who are stimulation addicts.  I&#039;m in a mcdonalds.  I couldn&#039;t handle not to be on my phone.  Stumulation addicts spend money.  The Facebook-as-a-verb crowd spends money.  Such a massive force to be reckoned with.  I would expect that Facebook will continue to attract high-profile businesses unless FB really drops the ball and pulls a myspace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the poster above&#8230; Yes, not everyone is on Facebook.  But what percent of important demographics isn&#8217;t?  Sure, there isn&#8217;t a lot of detached grouches, children under twelve, or people in developing nations.  But there are a lot of people who are stimulation addicts.  I&#8217;m in a mcdonalds.  I couldn&#8217;t handle not to be on my phone.  Stumulation addicts spend money.  The Facebook-as-a-verb crowd spends money.  Such a massive force to be reckoned with.  I would expect that Facebook will continue to attract high-profile businesses unless FB really drops the ball and pulls a myspace.</p>
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